|
Tories
Nov 11, 2021 21:20:39 GMT
Post by nottstoon on Nov 11, 2021 21:20:39 GMT
I fucking hate Tories me
|
|
|
Tories
Nov 12, 2021 11:39:04 GMT
Post by steer on Nov 12, 2021 11:39:04 GMT
Frightening, but we're effectively a one-party state now. The recent Paterson affair is just the latest example of how they're prepared to do whatever the fuck they want to get whatever the fuck they want. Back in the 80s, we used to wonder about Thatcher's children. Now we know - they're monsters.
They own the mainstream media, including the BBC which they (and Murdoch) used to despise but they later realised that instead of getting rid of it it was a better idea to co-opt it, which they have done. There's no meaningful dissent or opposition via the msm, and what opposition there is, mostly via social media as far as I can tell, is easily drowned out in the ocean of garbage slooshing around on twitter and facebook etc.
What they've done and are doing to the NHS is an absolute travesty. And the BBC et all have largely shut their eyes and ears to it. It's well on the way to full privatisation and we'll soon all be paying insurance like the yanks (800,000 bankruptcies a year due to health bills and that's people who have insurance). Fucking bleak.
|
|
|
Tories
Nov 12, 2021 15:30:43 GMT
Post by Teek Muglips on Nov 12, 2021 15:30:43 GMT
My main thing at the moment under Boris is there's absolutely no accountability. Lots of examples of MPs or advisors committing sackable offenses, each and every time it's excused. Only if the media keep running with it and the pressure becomes overwhelming does the position become untenable and then they resign. Even before Cummings, there was Patel (awful woman), and it's continued up to the current shite. But this is a PM who said shite like Muslim women look like letterboxes. Meanwhile there's constant probes into anti-semitism for far less offenses. As Steers says, we've basically become a one party state. I don't know how Labour can win power, even if they go further central like Keir seems to be trying.
|
|
|
Tories
Nov 12, 2021 16:27:17 GMT
Post by nottstoon on Nov 12, 2021 16:27:17 GMT
Corbyn was unelectable to the masses, great campaigner and a valuable voice in politics but he was never going to have appeal to reach the masses of closet racists and people who still bang on about “the war” like it was yesterday.
Starmer has been a bit of a disappointment, although I admit that these last couple of years have been possibly the hardest to be opposition leader as you can’t be seen as being to against a government who aligned itself like a parasite with the very people who they spent the previous years trying to screw over …..the NHS.
|
|
|
Tories
Nov 12, 2021 16:56:30 GMT
Post by Teek Muglips on Nov 12, 2021 16:56:30 GMT
I was all in on Corbyn at first because he stands for most of the things I do, but it quickly became clear that he lacked leadership skills and things gradually nose dived. Didn't handle the anti-semitism stuff well at all. Keir seems OK, I don't know what he can do to be honest. Ultimately, I genuinely don't know how you can run a party strategically if you're handcuffed to policies that your members want but the public doesn't believe in.
|
|
|
Tories
Nov 12, 2021 17:08:40 GMT
Post by nottstoon on Nov 12, 2021 17:08:40 GMT
The main problem for Labour is the Tories can be as morally bankrupt as they like, and because the “gOt bReXiT dOnE” their supporters will excuse it.
|
|